Attributes Resist Tutorial

(Douglas Mattingly) #1

Working through the Tutorial and got to the section on attributes. Entered per the instructions under References the Author2 and Publication date. No problem. Then added the key attribute ProtagonistGender. No problem. Then entered values for each attribute. No problem. But now there is a problem: I can’t erase or change the values. Story is now the prototype and so all those notes sharing in it now have the author, publication date, and Protagonist Gender of Story. I can’t get rid of them. I’ve clicked on none, normal and tried to delete the value itself with no luck. How do I get a clean slate again for each note?

(Mark Anderson) #2

As I read it you should be adding (as per p.11) attributes ‘Authors’ and ‘PublicationYear’. However this shouldn’t be a problem. I’ve followed through this and the next part of the part of the tutorial without a problem. If the text file is small could you upload it or link to it so we can take a look and try and see the cause of the problem. Also please tell us which version of Tinderbox you are using.

(Douglas Mattingly) #3

Like you, I had no problem adding Author and Publication date, nor with the ProtagonistGender (Although the drop down list for References only lists Author2. No single Author option.) The problem is with the drop down box under each one. After doing the earlier steps in the tutorial, certain names and dates were already entered into the attribute. For example, under Thomas Forrest the publication year of 1857 was entered. Now, under Frank Merriwell, when I try to enter in the proper publication date, when I select the drop down arrow, I get to select none, normal or 1857. I try to delete or type over 1857 with the correct date but it doesn’t take it. The only prototype for all the notes is now Story, but it has inherited the same problem, and I can’t get rid of the name, publication date or female under Protagonist Gender.

Using the latest Tbx version. Thanks for responding.

(Mark Anderson) #4

Well that’s odd the pop-up you should be using doesn’t have a pop-up list. It is the pop-up described here. The turorial tells you:

add key attributes for Authors, PublicationDate, and ProtagonistGender

Note the attribute named above is ‘Authors’ plural, not ‘Author’. When References are selected you should see (scrolling the right-side list slightly) 4 different author-related attributes:


OK, you appear to be describing the value pop-up list of existing values for the selected attribute (see more). As you add more notes with PublicationYear data, more dates will show in that list. The list simply lets you quickly add values that have already been used. To enter a value you click the attribute 's line in the KA table then double click in the white space to the right of the attribute name but to the left of the disclosure triangle that opens the value pop-up list.

So, part of the problem is you’re not quite following the instructions provided. In that context, to diagnose the last issue re the prototype I’d need to see the file because I can’t tell from the description given I can’t tell where you diverged from the tutorial.

(Mark Anderson) #5

You might also find this mini tutorial I posted a few days ago to be of use - Configuring Key Attributes.