Here’s today’s:
12:08:43 From Mark Anderson : Indeed, Scrivener is a really good app.
12:09:38 From Detlef Beyer : Scrivener is great - I use it for all my publishing. But to structure notes, find them in the structure is a hard task in scrivener
12:10:33 From Peter Wasilko : I use Scrivener as a front end to my typesetting process.
12:12:14 From David Eddy : Collaboration?
12:13:05 From Mark Anderson : My take on Tinderbox vs mind maps: TB maps are the same but without restrictive hierarchy/formalism of the mind-map concept (e.g. link-lines). In fairness mind-mappers are catching up., so no foul there.
12:14:03 From Dave Rogers : The law firm of Becker, Anderson & Bernstein
12:15:17 From Mark Anderson : @David. Collaboration: working with others, or using others work. It also speaks to looking outside one’s own discipline/world-view. Terminology is often discipline-dependent, so fresh perspectives offer easily overlooked insights.
12:16:41 From Detlef Beyer : @Mark there are nice MindMap tools out there. The main difference and my no 1 reason the choose TB: you define a structure at creation time and you have to go with this structure for the lifetime of the map. In TB I can restructure the map whenever a new project starts
12:21:21 From Mark Anderson : @Detlef, yes. I don’t wan’t to seem harsh on mind-maps as a genre. Tinderbox shines at incremental formalisation. A TB map can start with no relationships at all. In fairness, some mind mappers are becoming more flexible. Which is good. More choice, lucky us!
12:23:02 From Seb : Mark Bernstein → Do we currently have any “cookbook” with examples?
12:25:45 From Mark Bernstein : The “Cookbook” document has small demos of most actions. The pdf tutorials are essentially cookbooks — especially the agents tutorial
12:26:00 From Mark Bernstein : The language is so simple that relatively little is needed.
12:27:07 From Seb : I think a cookbook of how people utilize Tinderbox to solve problems would be helpful. I may take that on and try to build something similar to Mark Anderson’s Acrobatfaq.com
12:27:22 From Mark Bernstein : That would be great!
12:31:29 From Mark Anderson : @Seb sounds neat. By all means hit me up with any questions arising about the overall project staging/design.
12:36:46 From Mark Anderson : ‘Preview’ is a preview of what you (HTML) export will look like if exported and viewed in a browser.
12:37:36 From Detlef Beyer : is there a plain ascii copy of the text attribute after adding RFT formats?
12:38:03 From Dave Rogers : Bold and italics export correctly, which is handy.
12:38:54 From Mark Bernstein : $Text is a plain Unicode (not strictly speaking ASCII) version of the text.
12:39:04 From Mark Anderson : @Detlef. Every note stores both an RTF version and a plain text version. You can’t easily show the plain version in the ‘Text’ pane.
12:39:27 From Detlef Beyer : but I could use it for export?!
12:39:44 From Seb : @Mark Anderson → Absolutely would love your advice while building it
12:39:44 From Mark Bernstein : ^value($Text) or ^text(plain)
12:40:16 From Mark Anderson : Yes. ^value($Text)^ or ^text(plain)^ will insert the plain un-styled text for the note.
12:40:27 From Ipanini : Hi guys, long time no see… sorry for that
12:40:30 From Robert Walsh : Can somebody tell me real quick how to show that text toolbar in the individual note?
12:40:35 From Mark Anderson : More easily understood by just trying it. 
12:40:42 From Ipanini : And then today even late to the sow…
12:41:03 From Mark Anderson : ^text^ in export tries to format bold, italics, lists, etc.
12:41:06 From Mark Bernstein : Format ▸ Text ▸ Show Rruler
12:41:07 From Seb : @Mark Bernstein → Ever think about having an $OnChecked event listener?
12:42:14 From Robert Walsh : @Mark Bernstein Thank you
12:42:17 From Bill Schwartz (@_Bill) : What is a quick stamp vs a stamp?
12:42:18 From Detlef Beyer : can I call a Stamp from an OnAdd event?
12:42:27 From Mark Bernstein : @Seb: It’s usually fine to use a rule or an agent to keep an eye on $Checked.
12:42:46 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Detlef - I think you can just create a Rule or Edict instead
12:42:46 From Larry Dunville : Note to all, MacSparky’s DevonThink3 Field guide is now available. www.MacSparky.com
12:43:17 From Mark Bernstein : @Detlef: yes. stamp()
12:43:26 From Detlef Beyer : cool
12:43:27 From Dave Rogers : Need a bit of deeper explanation of Rule versus Edict in the discussion later.
12:43:33 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : cool
12:43:34 From Seb : @Mark Bernstein → 
12:43:45 From Mark Anderson : @Robert. Showing the text/preview/export tabs in the text pane is a global, per-document setting; i.e. on/off for all notes in the doc. How to turn on, see: ‘Show/Hide Text Pane Selector’ in the Window menu, Window menu
12:44:23 From Mark Anderson : >> can I call a Stamp from an OnAdd event?
12:44:38 From Mark Anderson : stamp([items, ]stampName)
12:45:44 From Mark Anderson : if() statement: if(condition){action}[else{action}]
12:46:34 From Mark Bernstein : Short version: rules run “all the time”. Edicts run at startup and then once in a while — like every hour. In my practice, use rules all the time, and use edicts if you find that using rules for everything makes your computer work too hard.
12:46:37 From Detlef Beyer : so stamps are a way to store my custom functions and reuse them in TB…
12:46:40 From Mark Anderson : Edicts: Edicts
12:46:50 From Mark Anderson : Rules: Rules
12:47:17 From Mark Bernstein : @Detlef: yes. But a better mechanism is coming.
12:50:02 From Dave Rogers : Published misspelled
12:52:35 From Mark Anderson : Checkmarks: Checkboxes
12:52:55 From Detlef Beyer : that’s programming: make an error once and have deal with it a thousand times 
12:53:43 From Max : Please explain a little bit slower
12:54:00 From Paul Christy : What is the value of Checkboxes? Are they attributes?
12:54:31 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Paul - yes they are Attributes
12:54:41 From Mark Bernstein : $Checked
12:55:43 From Mark Anderson : $checked: Checked
12:56:00 From Mark Anderson : Whoops $Checked (capital ‘C’): Checked
12:56:05 From Detlef Beyer : I would love to set straight quotes as standard for all notes in the prefs of TB
12:58:01 From Mark Anderson : @ Detlef, you can: Smart quotes
12:58:22 From Detlef Beyer : great!
12:58:51 From Detlef Beyer : misses that option
12:58:55 From Bill Schwartz (@_Bill) : My understanding is that Smart quotes are automatically turned off in the text field when the built in code prototype is used.
12:59:47 From Mark Bernstein : @_Bill: that’s correct!
13:00:13 From Mark Anderson : The ^value()^ export command: ^value(expression)^
13:00:51 From Mark Bernstein : $SmartQuotes is an attribute; you can inherit it. Or change its default!
13:01:50 From Mark Anderson : $SmartQuotes: SmartQuotes
13:02:39 From Detlef Beyer : if I turn off smart quotes in the app prefs - will I be able to switch them on for an individual note using the attribute „SmartQuotes“?
13:03:37 From Mark Bernstein : @Detlef: yes, because if a note has a specific value, that value overrides inheritance.
13:03:49 From Mark Anderson : @Detlef, yes. The Doc Setting level is setting the attribute’s doc level default. But as $SmartQuotes is an inherited attribute, inheritance principles apply … see …
13:04:16 From Mark Anderson : Inheritance of attribute values (and articles in that section.
13:05:20 From Mark Anderson : Looking for keyboard shortcuts? See: Keyboard Shortcuts
13:05:31 From Seb : Nice!
13:06:06 From Dave Rogers : Placeholder for discussion: For blogging, we should probably discuss sorting notes in reverse chronological order.
13:06:19 From Mark Anderson : The Reverse look-up Reverse Look-up Map can be most useful as is starts with a key then modifiers (i.e. A+Cmd, A+Cmd+Opt, B+Cmd, etc.)
13:06:55 From Sascha Donath : i thought that all the styling for webpages goes into css …
13:07:30 From Ipanini : Will publishing to e.g. Wordpress be treated at a certain time? (Or has it already been treated…)
13:07:31 From Detlef Beyer : just a very minor one: the <h1> structure is called „element“ not „tag“
13:07:50 From Mark Anderson : Sorting? Sorting is … an attribute. See the sort inspector Sort tab. What you select there sets $Sort Sort
13:08:03 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Sascha - ultimately it’s all html. CSS is simply a way of relocating extensive formatting rules to an external and replaceable document, but you can include any styling info you want directly within an html page
13:08:08 From Dave Rogers : Also placeholder: Can we use Rules or Edicts on a “watched note” in Apple Notes, wherein something like a hashtag in the note text will trigger actioncode to set a certain attribute. And can action code move notes from one container to another? From a “watched note” to a note that’s just a normal note in the file. (I know nothing about watched notes.) Just thinking about doing some mobile entry.
13:10:15 From Paul Christy : Great session! Have to jump off but will keep an eye on the Forum
13:10:32 From Mark Anderson : @Sascha, @Art is spot on. CSS came some years after HTML was invented as we all got fed up of writing styling literally into every HTML tag. Today, CSS use is essentially the norm.
13:10:39 From Mark Bernstein : @Ipanini: that may not fit into THIS course, but it can be done! One way is simple copy/paste, but automation is certainly possible
13:10:56 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @mwra - i’ve been studying lol
13:11:12 From Sascha Donath : @art thank you. i use tbx for a blog and i have all the structure in the html template and all the styling for the structure in the css. for short articles (like michael is just demonstrating) styling is probably not a headache to be included in the html
13:11:29 From Mark Bernstein : @Sascha: <h1> says “THIS IS A HEADING”. CSS says, “I’d like my headings to be 24pt Caslon Bold”
13:11:37 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : yes basically - also things like bullets, bold, italics
13:12:11 From Mark Anderson : @Dave. Yes. Moving notes: Working with $Container to move notes
13:12:44 From Mark Anderson : But as said something to do in more detail in another session.
13:12:55 From Sascha Donath : mark bernstein: thank you.
13:14:12 From Ipanini : @MarkB - Thank you
13:14:37 From Phillip Lloyd : see this for help with HTML: W3Schools Online Web Tutorials
13:14:42 From Mark Anderson : Now having flashbacks about writing HTML before CSS was invented 
13:15:36 From Bruce Gale : I am browsing through the chats and attempting to parse out those that seem most relevant.
13:15:44 From Mark Bernstein : Yay!
13:16:26 From Mark Anderson : @Art. IIRC not; probably as you’re sawing off the branch on which you are sitting. Setting $Container to a new value tells Tinderbox “Hey, I want to be in this new place)."
13:16:59 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : OK gotcha. For Everyone - I’d asked @mwra if we can use $Path interchangeably in place of $Container
13:17:21 From Mark Anderson : @ Aert more on Paths: Paths
13:17:42 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : ok thanks!
13:18:02 From Bruce Gale : Except, there are too many, my on the fly system isn’t panning out, but, I can punt.
13:18:26 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Bruce, I’ve been monitoring the chat, I don’t believe there are any unanswereds
13:18:30 From Mark Anderson : @ aRt $Path is indeed read only. How to check? See: Path
13:18:56 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : Ah OK thanks @mwra! Luckily I’ve only thusfar been using it as readonly lol
13:19:59 From Bruce Gale : @Art, you’re correct, they were answered, but some were general Q
13:20:08 From Bruce Gale : Q’s that may not have been seen by all.
13:20:25 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : gotcha
13:20:47 From Bruce Gale : You, of course, are right in there, batting away at a good number of Q’s. 
13:20:52 From Scott H. : For fun: Here is a website I designed for a client, made and exported from Tinderbox: Year Zero: The Dashboard | Life OS Dashboard
13:21:04 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : I stay away from the advanced questions hahah
13:21:14 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Scott - cool!
13:21:22 From Mark Bernstein : @ScottH: Very cool!
13:22:05 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Scott - it’s really inspiring to think of all this info actually having a back-end, in the form of their Tinderbox file
13:22:52 From Mark Anderson : @Scott - nice example of design structure in depth.
13:24:31 From Scott H. : Click here to download: MapsElf | BoxPress 2
13:24:52 From Dennis Lienke : @bruce, @marka, @markb, @art, @michael — thanks
13:25:05 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Scott - very cool!
13:25:19 From Ipanini : Yes, absolutely - Thanks to everyone!!
13:26:02 From Phillip Lloyd : click on the 3 dots here in chat and then select “save chat” and then a window pops up to show you where they are in your finder
13:27:34 From Peter Wasilko : panDoc is your friend too
13:28:35 From Ipanini : @Phillip Lloyd - cool thanks!
13:29:04 From Detlef Beyer : I would love to see images as reference pasted into the text window without having the switch to the preview pane…
13:29:52 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Detlef - there is a way to make this happen… open a New Window and set it to Preview mode should work
13:31:03 From Detlef Beyer : still I don’t like having to copy the path to the image manually. So I copy the image and this slows down TB dramatically
13:31:08 From Mark Anderson : aTbRef uses no embedded images. The TBX - 000s of notes zipped is 2.5 MB. The zip of the 329 images used is 19.3 MB. But as Mark B points out, don’t be afraid to use embedded imasges if that meets your immediate need. Also, for web use, re-used image like brand/logo definitely benefit from being stored externally. The aTbRef TBX includes all its templates so feel free to steal code from there.
13:31:57 From Art Currim (@archurrh) : @Detlef - you should be able to drag the image into a plain TextEdit window set to Text - it will give you the path
13:32:00 From David Eddy : Fun!
13:32:00 From Bill Schwartz (@_Bill) : Thank you all