SheetPlanner (topic split)


(Nick Gordon) #1

I’m not clear on the protocol for mentioning other products here, so please delete this if it’s not appropriate.

If (like me) you’re an old-time Ecco hand, you might want to look at Sheetplanner (www.sheetplanner.com). It’s in beta at present and it’s no alternative to TB in terms of managing and organising notes (not even close). But it does use the Ecco model of an outline with columns and has great flexibility. I’m using it as an adjunct to TB and instead of OmniOutliner/iThoughtsX and I’m enjoying it.


Q. Is it possible to show the titles of linked notes in Outline columns?
(Andreas Grimm) #2

Is there a download link @ThatGuy?


(Nick Gordon) #3

You can email Peter at support@sheetplanner.com to be added to the beta - no direct download yet


(Paul Walters) #4

This topic probably belongs in its own thread (@mwra can move it if he wants). I’ve used SheetPlanner a lot in beta. It’s good for what it does, which so far is fairly limited. I think of it more as a planning app not a note taking app, but I can see it could be used that way. Exports in either OPML or CSV format. Tinderbox has better success importing the SheetPlanner OPML than CSV. Probably because the CSV format is not adept at representing hierarchical data, which is what SheetPlanner produces.

(Over here, CSV import in Tinderbox 7 frequently gets weird or garbled results, so I avoid importing CSV if I can.)


(Mark Anderson) #5

A post was merged into an existing topic: Q. Is it possible to show the titles of linked notes in Outline columns?


(Peter Davey) #6

Hi Paul,
Do you have an email address that I can reach you at?

You can email me at support@sheetplanner.com and I will respond there if that’s convenient.

Thank you.
Peter


(Pat Maddox) #7

It looks kinda like OmniPlan (which I haven’t used). Is it kinda like OmniPlan?


(Peter Davey) #8

Pat,
I don’t want to disrespect the TinderBox developer by speaking about my product in his forums. Can you contact me at support@sheetplanner.com and I will provide you with more details.
Thanks.
Peter

Note - I think SheetPlanner and Tinderbox are probably fairly complementary products more so than competitors…


(Nick Gordon) #9

Not really. OmniPlan is a pure project management app - it handles schedules, dependencies, resources and costs and is overkill for most task planning. The Gantt chart it produces is simply a representation of what might be complex underlying information about all the above factors.

SheetPlanner is (among other things) a structured task management tool - it’ll do you a timeline (Gantt chart) based on how you’ve put your tasks together but it does a multitude of other things that OmniPlan doesn’t do. It’s more in the line of a Personal Information manager (remember those?).

I’m experimenting with SP as a way of doing the high level planning for projects I run - then I use OmniFocus for my own task management and Omniplan (or Merlin) for the formal project planning and management. SP is a much more friendly environment for the early stage thinking than any of the others I’ve mentioned.

In my own personal ecosystem, it’s closer to Curio than anything else.


(Pat Maddox) #10

I’m curious to know what that looks like for you. I’m sort of in a similar situation.

Here are two messages I sent to Peter re: SheetPlanner


I use Tinderbox and OmniFocus all the time.

My biggest challenge right now is seeing “the big picture” – which I can’t see at all in OmniFocus, and which I can kinda make happen in Tinderbox but don’t really like to. It’s the GTD horizons beyond projects.

Some of the questions I ask:

  • Am I investing enough time and energy in my areas of focus?
  • Am I fulfilling my responsibilities in the various roles I have?
  • Are my areas of focus / responsibilities balanced?
  • What projects will I work on this week / month / quarter / year?

It’s really about the stuff that matters to me, rather than the details of daily living (e.g. “mow lawn” wouldn’t be useful to me here)

Additionally, OmniFocus isn’t good at showing me what I’ve done. It has a “completed” perspective, but that’s pretty much a big bucket of every task I’ve finished. I’m more interested in what meaningful work I’ve accomplished over the last week / month / quarter / year.

So to boil it down, what meaningful work have I accomplished over previous timeframes, and what meaningful work am I planning to do over upcoming timeframes?


first I’m trying to put in some historical data. I’ve been taking a go-at-your-own-pace course, and want to see how it’s been going.

I think of it as broken down into:

  • the course
    • individual lessons of the course
      • working sessions to complete the lessons

So for example, on 9/18/17 I started lesson 1. I met with the instructor for an hour (a working session), and did a 2 hour session to complete the homework later that day.

(lots of lessons in between)

I started another lesson on 9/4/18. I met with the instructor for an hour. I did an hour-long working session on 9/8/18, and a 3-hour working session on 9/12/18.

What I’m hoping to see, visually, and get answers to are:

  • how much calendar time has the course taken? it’s just from the time I started the course, until now since it’s still ongoing

  • how much calendar time have the individual lessons taken? those are from the time I start the lesson, to the time I submit my homework

  • how much wall clock time has the course and individual lessons taken? those are aggregates of the working sessions I’ve done

Can I do that? I see I can view the timeline as weeks / months / quarters / years. Right now it’s showing me that the course started some time in September 2017 (which is good enough for me) but there’s no indication that it’s still ongoing.