How to split a note?

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Hi everyone! Tinderbox 7 is a wonder! I was wondering : in Scrivener, when I have to split a section of a text, I use cmd + K and give a title to the new section. Is there a similar way to split a part of text in Tinderbox? Thanks for your suggestions.

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Yes ā€“ Note ā–ø Split or ^āŒ˜āŒ„-Return.

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Further to the lastā€¦

Note ā–ø Split will split a note in two based on the selection in the text pane, so cursor focus must be in the text pane.

If the selection is empty, the note is split at the insertion point. Otherwise, the selection is extracted to a new note.

The title of the new note is taken from the first sentence of the new noteā€™s $Text.

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Thank you very much for your two answers. Iā€™m surprised I did not see immediately that feature in the Note tab. But no sooner said than done. Brilliant!

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How about splitting a Note Name into 2 Note Names?

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Regarding splitting a Note Name into 2 Note Names, I guess that wouldnā€™t fit the Tinderbox paradigm unless there wasnā€™t anything in that Noteā€™s Text Pane.

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I can see a case for splitting $Text in a note ā€“ a need to atomize notes into finer details.

But why would one want to split $Name? What happens to the $Text in the original note?

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Most of my Note Names have no text. That is, I frequently use Tinderbox as a single pane outliner. But I also have Note Names that have Text when I need it.

So splitting a Note Name would only make sense when it has no Text.

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Iā€™d like to revive this, since

  • for a short amount of time ā€“ in Tbx vs. 10.x.? ā€“ we had exactly that: The Option to split $Name when pressing ā€œEnterā€ at wherever the cursor happened to be within the Noteā€™s Name.
  • Now: In 10.0.2 itā€™s gone. for good? Couldnā€™t it have been adjusted to the way the Split-Option for $Text has always greatly been working: clicking a modifier key + Enter = Splitting $Name.

Just thinking ā€¦ or maybe: kindly feature-requesting

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Itā€™s not gone ā€” just changed to split on ^-[Return] instead of [Return]

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great ā€¦ I just figured out that in order to split ā€“ as the name implies ā€“ ā€œsomethingā€ needs to follow the split-point in order to make the split happen.

Thanks

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Sequoia (15.2 at least) by default makes ^Return open the contextual menu. To use the keystroke to split a note, it is necessary to disable the ā€œShow Contextual Menuā€ assignment in System Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts > Keyboard

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thanks @PaulWalters

maybe @eastgate can remedy this and alter the modifier to something like Control+Shift+Return.

I am still on Sonoma.

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I think if Tinderbox exposed the ā€œsplit titleā€ command in the Tinderbox menu, then anyone could use macOS Keyboard Shortcuts settings to override the default ^ā†© shortcut and avoid conflicts.

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I agree: that would be the most effective solution. No-one would use the menu option, but it would allow users to change the shortcut for their needs.

Similarly, it would be very useful to have the command that is currently on opt-tab (Move to Next Pane) visible in the menu, so we could change it to something that doesnā€™t clash with the MacOS standard (Start a bullet point list).

I know the ā€˜Move to Next Paneā€™ binding has been in Tinderbox for years, so itā€™s in peopleā€™s finger memory, but it trips me up every time Iā€™m in the text box and I want to start a listā€¦

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Coming back to how @dominiquerenauld kicked off this Thread:

  • in Scrivener there is also the option of selecting Text in $Text
  • then hit Split ā†’ with the selected Text becoming the $Name of the new Note

Is that conceivable or imaginable in Tinderbox as well?

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Yes, see Note menu ā–ø Splitā€¦ and also Split Note.

Try using ā€˜Splitā€™ in the aTbRef Search feature. :slight_smile:
Note, this feature arrived in v7.0.0 (Feb 2017).

I can see however that different groups of user intuit a different meaning/outcome for the ā€˜splitā€™ feature, so Iā€™ll try and add some more cross links.

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Split Title (^-[Return]) is currently kluged outside the command mechanism, and so cannot be a menu command without some architectural acrobatics. But that might be worth the painā€¦

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FWIW, on macOS 15.1.1 āŒƒā†© (Ctrl+Return) opens the context menu both in Title edit mode in the View pane and in the title edit box in the Text pane.

On the same OS āŒƒ+āŒ¤ (Ctrl+Enter), in view plane (only) splits the title with the title text after the insertion point as a new note title. But, q.v. above, āŒƒ+āŒ¤ (Ctrl+Enter), in the text plane title box has no effect. This is confusingly inconsistent.

So, Iā€™d request that after forthcoming tweaks (if any) Release Note clearly re-state the menu/shortcuts/expectations for splitting title or text including limitations for context of use. It doesnā€™t, IME, what the constraints are as long as they are notes else someone whose intuition differs will get confused/upset when the features donā€™t work as described. This observation implies no fault on anyoneā€™s part, but just accepts that intuition/subjective choice are not a constant.

[Mis-described Control as Command key - fixed]

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I think that should be Control+Return ā€¦

ā€¦ when I type Control+Return on my system I get a Typinator search window :rofl: